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Hi Simon,
The last sentence in your paragraph has a phrase "any product imaginable online". I can change it into "any imaginable online product", can't it?

Hi Simon,
I'd like to know what exactly "loss of community" mean in your last week's plan.I'm so confused.
Looking forward to your explanation!

Chris

"there is considerable variation in the different attempts to define and operationalize community. In part this variation is rooted in a basic confusion with regard to the distinction between the terms community and neighborhood. Akin to the early senses of the term, community is generally associated with certain kinds of relational qualities such as connected-ness or shared interests and concerns. While these relationships are not inevitably bound to a spatial nexus, they may materialize in local organizations such as churches, associations or other community organizations. It is this form of communal connection among individuals, rooted in place or shared interests that presumably provides the foundation for some sort of group identity and collective action.

In contrast, neighborhood is an explicitly spatial concept referring to a geographical unit. But even as such it is often associated with relational properties as connected-ness that are inherent in the term community, particularly in the urban context where the neighborhood is often considered the primary unit of solidarity and cohesion. It is this confusion between the terms community and neighborhood that lies at the center of the tension between notions of place-based connected-ness and the loss of immediate relationships under the impact of modernization, urbanization, migration, communication and technological advances that runs through the different classical conceptualizations of community (Chaskin 1997)." https://www.socwork.net/sws/article/view/96/385

https://family.jrank.org/pages/1199/Neighborhood-Loss-Neighborhood.html


hoang

As the graph below demonstrates, "imaginable" can come either before or after the noun.

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hoang

https://www.google.com/search?lr=lang_en&tbs=lr%3Alang_1en&tbm=bks&ei=7KhWXqDEJuaI4-EP28GX-AI&q=%22any+product+imaginable+online%22&oq=%22any+product+imaginable+online%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...9486.12205.0.12682.7.7.0.0.0.0.209.836.0j4j1.5.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..2.1.208...33i10k1.0.Ri4C0ohk2cU

-> any imaginable product online

Simon’s paragraph is great and very detailed.
My paragraph is for those who appreciate the beauty of English.

I believe the contributory factors to the shutdown of street shops are intense competition between businesses and the rise of online shopping. Many small shops these days often find themselves in the face of tough competition for their consumers’ patronage. In fact, shoppers tend to prefer department stores, such as Costco or Walmart, where a wide range of consumer goods are available rather than small specialty stores. But perhaps the leading cause of this trend is that a large number of shops succumb to internet purchasing and shopping and ultimately vanish. This is because customers find it more convenient and economical to make purchases on e-commerce websites, such as Amazon.com or eBay.com, in the comfort of their homes or workplaces and receive delivery of their purchased items the next day instead of making trips to traditional brick-and-mortar stores.

hoang

any product imaginable online
any imaginable online product

Unfortunately these phrases have different meanings so you cannot replace one with the other.

In the first one, 'online' is the location to find any product (which is) imaginable.

In the second, 'online' is not a location. It becomes an adjective, and this changes the meaning.

In this way, "imaginable online" is a relative phrase to support "any product". is it right, sjm?

Don't think about the words 'imaginable online' as working together. 'Imaginable' goes with 'product'. 'Online' is a separate idea (location).

For example, we can say:

You can get any product imaginable...... at a supermarket.
You can get any product imaginable...... in New York.
You can get any product imaginable...... online.

'imaginable' works like a relative clause to give more information about the product, but 'online' is a location and not connected to the previous words.

Hi sjm,
So I can use "any imaginable product online" in that situation?

Hi Hoang,

I feel we can use "any imaginable product online"
And is grammatically correct.

Regards,
SA

Hoang

I don't want to get too technical, but yes, you can put the adjective in this case either BEFORE 'product' (prepositive) or AFTER (postpositive). We rarely put the adjective after the noun, and it only happens in a limited number of cases.

However, there is a small change in meaning and also a change in emphasis. Putting the adjective after the noun here definitely emphasises that 'any product you can possibly imagine' is available online.

In Simon's essay, 'any product imaginable' is clearly the best option here, because it matches the meaning he wants to communicate. If he wrote 'any imaginable product online' we would still understand him but it would not really convey the precise meaning he intends.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postpositive_adjective

FROM SIMON:

There's a very interesting discussion in the comments above. I'm tempted to write a lesson about the phrase 'any product imaginable' over the weekend!

Good link Klaus - the answer is on that page.

Hi Simon,
Thanks for the reply, and I like your idea that we don't learn English in a special order.
I now just follow your blog to work hard on the writing section for a certain period.
below is my handling of your essay, and would you give me some suggestions to make my study more efficient?

1 Look at the questions
2 Do the planning in 10 mins
3 Compare with your planning if you have, and see the differences.
4 Write an essay following your skeleton.
5 Compared with your essay
5.1 Find the differences
5.2 See and mark the proposed topic vocabulary in your blog.
5.3 Re-write the essay based on my memorize
5.4 And compared again.
6 Look at the Next essay.


and you also mentioned that we need to focus on the topic vocabulary and the ability to express and develop ideas. I just wonder how to use the topic vocabulary. Is it to memorize it?
How to develop the ability to express and develop ideas.
Best,
Lincoln

Dear Simon,

I have found a topic for the Writing 2 essay which was put by a student asked for some help with that. However, it was under the listening section( from the 3rd December) from December so I don't know if you or anybody had a chance to help him.

I have found this topic interesting, so in my next entry, I will write my attempt on that.

If you would like to comment or anybody else this would be nice. Thank you, Aleksandra

It's been a while I haven't seen you post anything. Hope you are not infected by conoravirus.

Hi Simon

Why have you used "bricks and mortar stores"? why not "clicks and mortar stores"? as the latter conveys commerce but first one means property due to the Cambridge dictionary of example.

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